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 Is it just me, or are modern-day men just a cut below our 80s counterparts? I mean, in this day and age we sing about our bitches and our cars, and about how much we're gonna be getting, but way back in the day we had role-models that really knew how to treat women.

Rick Astley, for example, will never give you up, never let you down, never run around and desert you, never make you cry, never say goodbye, never tell a lie and hurt you. Isn't that just the model of responsible dating? Plus, he had a dancing black barman.

And Meatloaf. The man is so full of love and lust that his poetry comes spilling out at every opportunity. He'll do anything for love -- anything at all. But he won't do that, and gods help you if you suggest it.

Songs and lyrics are iconic of the times we live in - a time full of R&B, Hip-hop crap that objectifies women, but at the same time sells so well to women that it perpetuates the genre. We are slaves to capitalist demand, and slaves to our own lust for escapism through the driving beat and fantastic lyrics.

This has been a poorly thought out post, and poorly executed... i'm writing this as i'm working, so i've lost the idea a number of times, only to rediscover it through the magic of old music. Sorry, older.

Dave

Panoramic doom (sorry, thought of this phrase by accident when looking through Canadian travel brochures)
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From:silvanime
Date:May 31st, 2008 11:43 am (UTC)
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LOL. Very nice. And I agree. Style and honour are sadly lacking from hip-hop.

How have things been going?
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From:the_real_oeter
Date:May 31st, 2008 02:13 pm (UTC)
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It is a sad truth that people don't listen to lyrics anymore. They're too busy gyrating to shitty beats. Boo to music.
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From:holterya
Date:June 1st, 2008 01:32 pm (UTC)

Are you trying to rickroll us?

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"When we find ourselves believing that killing a man makes us more of a man, but loving a man makes us less of a man, it’s probably time to reexamine our criteria for manhood." - Jay Smooth. Between him and the Beastie Boys, hip hop isn't completely beyond redemption.

Anyway I think you may have this backwards, to a certain extent - music is a reflection of our misogynistic culture, not one of the driving forces behind it. I've little doubt glorifying these things just adds to the problem, but it is a chicken-and-egg scenario, and the sexism came first. Take a look at Eminem, for example: in one of his songs he actually states outright that he's simply saying the things that everyone says when behind closed doors - the difference being he's not afraid to say these same things in public. In this sense a lot of his work (and others like him) is satire... but it is really god-awful and completely ineffective satire because it appeals without irony directly to the people it is allegedly targeting. Maybe he is just a terrible writer, but I think it would be more accurate to say he is hiding behind the idea of satire rather than seeking to employ it properly. Especially since at the end of the day he's just like any other popstar: he cashes his cheques, goes home to his mansion, and the impact of his work on popular culture just doesn't seem to concern him.

But yeah getting mad at music isn't really going to change anything. This sort of music wouldn't be so popular if it didn't have underlying problems to feed on - and they are the real issue here. Remember, we are talking about the same society in which GTA IV (the Eminem of videogames when it comes to "satire") sold so well that it made it into the friggin' Guinness Book Of Records.

Mind you, in twenty years' time when we are all hunkering down in our armoured bunkers as the robotic super-rappers of the future roam about looking for humans to kill in order to boost their street cred, I'm sure we'll be thinking back to the good old days when we had guys like Shannon Noll feeding us wholesome messages, whilst conveniently forgetting how stunningly awful the music was.
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